【四人组+导演采访】长篇聊GOLDGRAVES，有一点newtina
原文见这里，剧组几个人互动和小爆料都太有意思了但具体太多了，还是放原著设定好了嘿嘿嘿。
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Claire: There’s one very interesting scene that has got everyone talking. It’s the [scene] just after Tina is taking Newt out of MACUSA and Graves approaches her, and it kind of changes a lot of dynamic between Tina and Graves. People are now shipping it – not good. But how early on was that removed, and is Graves Grindelwald the whole way through this movie? 大家都在讨论格雷夫斯在纽特面前给蒂娜擦嘴的情节，蒂娜和格雷夫斯之间的关系浮出水面，大家都开始CP他两，这可不好，那在整部电影里格雷夫斯一直都是格林德沃扮的吗？
David: Graves is Grindelwald the whole way through the movie, that’s for sure........But that one came out about halfway through the editing process. But I love it. I love the way Colin [Farrell] does what he does. You get this whole sense of… their relationship is really intricate. But what it did was it set something running in your head about you wanting more of that in the rest of the movie, and then we went somewhere completely different with it. So it sort of set up a false promise in a way.导演：格雷夫斯在电影里一直都是格林德沃，这是肯定的。这个删掉的片段是剪辑到一半的时候被删掉的。但我很喜欢，尤其是囧林的表演。你能感觉到金坟的关系非常复杂有深度。但是这个情节的问题就在，你接下来整部电影都会在脑海里叫嚣着我还要看金坟，然而并没有，所以不能给观众错误的幻想。
Claire: Did Jo talk about Graves and Tina’s relationship, either prior to Grindelwald or prior to the film scene when she was an Auror? Do you know more about that? Was that something that’s all written out?那罗琳有聊过真正的格雷夫斯和蒂娜的关系吗？你们知道这两个人之间到底是啥情况吗？
David: We always just discussed it in terms of the fact that she kind of quite liked him and was always seeking his approval, and that had a slight sexual edge to it.
导演：我和JKR讨论过，蒂娜相当喜欢格雷夫斯，一直希望得到他的认可，这种感觉也与‘性’沾一点边。
【卧槽，JKR说过sexual edge，holy mother, sexual edge只可领会不可言传啊性倾向性暗示anywayOMG。。。
Katherine: ....I think that at the beginning of the film, Tina is in awe of her boss and thinks he's a great man and wants to show him… all the time, she's wanting to show him her dedication to her work and that she's good at her job. She definitely wants to please him, and I think that there might be a little bit of a crush there but it's not something in a sense that she articulated to herself. She just is in awe of him, and obviously he's quite handsome and he has a lot of… he commands a lot of attention whenever he's in the room, so I think it's exciting and intimidating to be around him for her because if she's around him that means she's in the middle of an investigation or something but also it can mean that she's in a lot of trouble. So there's a tension there. There's a power dynamic that causes this attention there. And of course she only wants to be at her best self around him, which is what's, I thought, so great about the mustard scene. It's absolutely mortifying that she thinks she's really taking care of business, and she looks ridiculous and is called out for it. And it was… yeah, I think….
But it was a way of showing that she really had a history at MACUSA and intricate relationships there and maybe to explore just making Newt a little jealous [laughs]…[That] was something that I think they were toying with. B
K姐：我觉得电影一开始蒂娜很崇拜尊重她的上司，认为他很厉害，一直想要让他知道她对工作有多么投入、能很好完成任务。她肯定是想要让他满意，我觉得可能有点crush的成分在那里，不过这不是她有意识的情绪。她就是很膜拜上司，他蛮帅的，而且每次他在房间里都注意力都能被吸引，所以蒂娜觉得在他身边又激动又畏惧，因为这有可能意味着他们在调查案子（激动），或者也有可能意味着她又惹麻烦了（畏惧）。所以她就会紧张，她是下属嘛，就一直会想给他展现最好的自己，这就是芥末酱那张戏最牛逼的地方了。因为蒂娜以为她办成了事、可结果她被训得哭包又被撵出来嘴上还沾了芥末酱，她觉得超级耻辱。
这个片段也告诉观众，蒂娜在MACUSA有自己的故事和复杂的人际关系，也许让背景板纽特吃点小醋之类的。我觉得这就是他们想达到的目的。
Kat:Do you think there was ever a point in the film where she started to suspect that Graves was not who he said he was? Considering how close they were or maybe she just…
问：电影里她啥时候开始怀疑格雷夫斯是伪装的，毕竟格雷夫斯和蒂娜关系蛮近。
Katherine: I think it’s a really heartbreaking moment for Tina [laughs] obviously when he sentences her to death, not just because she doesn’t want to die but because she never imagined that he would do such a thing to her. And in a way, it’s that scene where he sentences them to death – that’s the real kind of “pull the mask off your face” reveal scene in a sense because she discovers this person she looked up to is not so wonderful or admirable after all and… in that scene when they’re talking about the Obscurus, Eddie sort of busts Graves. He says, “What would you want to use it for?” So he starts to get a sense that this man may have evil ambitions, and I don’t think that Tina… I think she’s overwhelmed by all of this new information at that moment, and it’s only confirmed when his response to that accusation is sentencing us to death then that sort of confirms the suspicion and obviously also really breaks Tina’s heart in a way. But yeah, I don’t think either of them at that point are thinking, “I wonder if this is Grindelwald?” [laughs]But I think that the suspicion really begins there.
K姐：对蒂娜来说，格雷夫斯把她判死刑真的是让她心碎，不仅是因为她不想死，更是因为她从来没想过他会让她去死【这翻译的我突然一阵鸡皮疙瘩】。从某种程度上说，格雷夫斯给纽蒂判死刑的那场戏，是他揭下面具露出狰狞面目，蒂娜发现她曾经仰视的人并不是什么好人、并不值得敬畏。而且那场戏里，纽特是很敏锐地发现格雷夫斯的邪恶用心，当时蒂娜一下子还没有消化掉那么多新信息，不过后来当他们被判死刑的时候，蒂娜对格雷夫斯的怀疑被确证了，很显然这让蒂娜从某种程度上心碎。但是纽蒂也没有脑筋转那么快想到他就是格林德沃假扮的。
关于Newtina
Katherine: I worry about torturing the fans a little because these things they roll out, some of them more quickly than others, and I think just because Newt and Tina end up together doesn’t mean that it’s going to be an easy road to get there. And I hope we don’t drive the fans too crazy in that process. [laughs]
K姐：我担心会有点折磨到newtina粉丝，因为有些事情该发生的总会发生、而且会发生的很快，我觉得就因为纽特和蒂娜以后会在一起，不代表他们这一路就会很顺利。我希望过程不会让粉丝太崩溃。
Kat: I have one really fun, very easy one here: Gigglewater, did they just use water on set for you? Or did they make something [that] actually tastes good? Did you ever get to try it?问：咯咯酒拍摄的时候用的是水吗？还是尝起来更好喝的饮料，你喝了吗？
Katherine: Well, I think that there’s a little bit of a cut scene there too, where actually… Newt and I had ordered something stronger [laughs] because we’d just been through it and ordered a stronger drink. Yeah, and… oh gosh, I’m blanking on it. We actually ordered something else, but I can’t remember what it was. But it sounded like a very strong drink.
K姐：唔我觉得那段好像也有被删掉，因为我和纽特点的是更强劲的酒毕竟我们刚刚死里逃生，不过我想不起来名字了，听起来就是个非常强劲的酒。
【smoking cocktail冒烟鸡尾酒还是Lobe blaster大脑冲击波，听起来都好NB。。
【自从知道蒂娜能喝之后我永远非写喝酒不可，不过看起来纽特也、很、能、喝我就放心了，两个人90年一起喝嘿嘿嘿
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